- Philmont Program Features - provides the Scouts with all of the programs available.
- Philmont Program Preferences - provides the Scouts with an opportunity to indicate their top 10 preferences on the basis of what they would most like to participate in.
- Program Feature Tally Sheet - provides a worksheet so the Adult Advisors can compile all of the crews choices and determine the top 5 itineraries containing the programs the Scouts were most interested in.
- Philmont Itinerary Selection Aid - a worksheet to get an overview of itinerary selections.
-Renumbering so that 1 is "Typical" and 30 (or whatever) is "Super Strenuous"
-Use of new/different camps (i.e. he plans a route that uses the campsites at the Hunting Lodge) to spread the load out at some camps
-New trails that have been finished in the last couple of years have drastically changed mileage. Also more accurate methods of calculating mileage are now available so that we can set routes better. While we have found that most routes are pretty close, we have found that some routes are shorter or longer than published (I KNEW IT!!!! My last trek had to be AT LEAST 100 miles.)
-A couple of itineraries "get too high too early" and have higher incidences of crew problems, so changes will be made on the front end
-More use of the Valle Vidal
-Information on which routes are just renumbered when the new book comes out (also thinking about changing the name of the book).
ONLY 8 MONTHS TO
GO BEFORE LEAVING FOR PHILMONT!!!!!!
ARE YOU READY ?????
Philmont 2000 Committee Meeting #6
October 21, 1999
Alvarez, Bascue, Cain, Crichton, Gallagher, Giunta, L. Goldman, R. Goldman, Goldsmith, Golisch, Gordaychik, Jennings, Marshall, Mayer, Moralle, Noschese, Nuber, Ortiz, Pachman, Pinhas, Ragucci, Rock, Smith, Tanner, Vaughn
Agenda, Minutes from Meeting #5, Adult Roster, Committee Positions List,Updated Crew Rosters, Crew Meeting Agendas and Information, Philmont Notes 1-3, Itinerary Selection Form, Philmont Advisors Guide, Crew Leader Instructions
Reviewed prior meeting's minutes. They can now be found on http://philmont4mcbsa.bizland.com in addition to the old site at http://www2.cybercities.com/l/ldg/
The following were deleted from Committee Roster: Romans and Asay
Looking to have a patch design by next meeting. Phil Crichton provided additional design elements for the shirt.. Click on it to see a larger version.
Subsequent to the meeting, Larry Goldsmith used the elements in Phil's design for a proposed patch design as shown below.
Updated Crew Rosters were handed out. It was discussed that neither the adult nor the crew rosters should be posted on the web sites to protect privacy. Any one who wants an electronic copy of either should contact Walt Tanner or Larry Goldsmith. If we have no additional signups, Walt will offer one crew slot to other NJ Councils. Council is reviewing the Adult Applications for approval in the near future. Two Scouts were swapped between Crews 8 and 9.
The Contingent Meeting was reviewed. It was considered a success. There was discussion about the appropriateness of the Youth Protection Video shown especially since some younger siblings were present. We should be more explicit about the nature of the video prior to showing it in the future. It was thought that the older video may be more appropriate for the Contingent.
Fall Shakedown Hike
The Fall Shakedown was reviewed. Thanks were given to Greeley and Dainty for their coordination efforts along with the bus drivers and Applegate Moving for providing the truck. Suggestions for improvement included making sure that the most current trail maps were used and providing the maps and directions earlier.
Crew Meeting Information
Sample agendas for a November crew meeting along with an outline of topics for other meetings was passed out. Additional agendas will be provided next month. The November Crew Meeting agenda was reviews stressing the concept of having each member of the Crew have a position of responsibility, the use of Philmont Notes 1-3 which were attached, and the use of the Philmont Program features list and selection form in working toward itinerary selection. Philmont's instruction sheet to crew leaders was handed out for review. At each Committee Meeting from now on, each Crew will give a brief (one-minute) summary of their training activities during the prior month.
Review the Philmont Advisors Guide for additional information for yourself and your crews.
A quick overview of the PEAKS book was given explaining the sections and how to read the itinerary information to aid in itinerary selection with your crews.
Getting payments in will be the responsibility of the Lead Crew Advisor. It is important to keep them timely. Payments should be sent to Donna at Council with a notification to Larry GOLDMAN for tracking overall fee payments. A sample fee recording form is attached. The budget is still up in the air -- as the currently quoted airfares are sky high!
The next meeting will be November 18, 1999 at 7:30 PM atMonmouth Council Service Center in Oakhurst.
Information about the Philmont 2000 Trek can be
found on the Internet at